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I lived through all of this. When I was just one year old, our house was flooded, luckily without casualties. After that, I grew up in the Delta, whitnessing the gradual building of more and more dams. With the loss of several ferry services... Interesting times!
An even more interesting question is "Why are all the major cities in the Netherlands like Amsterdam, Rotterdam located 50 km away from the sea shore?" A look into history books reveals, they were located at the sea shore when they were founded. That's just the opposite of sea level rise, but in this case it has to do with an ocean stream carrying plenty of sand with it, which is continuously deposited at the shore. So the Netherland land mass grows and will continue to grow, which has nothing to do with dikes and damms.
When I watch these videos I'm both filled with wonder and doubt. I always ask myself how others were able to come up with all these inventions, solutions, and solve complex problems. I always ask myself why I doubt my own ability to follow along with the process they came up with to do simple things like build a house or make concrete. I'm grateful for our world's brilliant minds, but I feel so lost sometimes.
Als je het je niet bevalt moet je lekker opdonderen en in America gaan wonen of zo kunnen ze je ook wat makkelijker uitroeien. The dutch are way better in a lot of things so keep you mouth shut or i will shut it for you permanently
So, now this version of New Orleans flooding happened in 5 hours. I'm find with New Orleans area flooding being used as a teaching subject but everyone should be on the same sheet. There's more to the contributor of the flooding besides lack of human support. Most of the levies were built at different times so they used the latest, current, or cheapest methods available. There was also another area hit worst off just south of NOLA but there's no mention of it and they get flooded to the roof tops on the regular. Another contributor was the pumping stations had shut down, in Jefferson Parish the pumps were order to be turn off by the Parish President as he didn't want the pumps to get damaged. Oddly, the pumps were designed to shut down when overburden with debris, so shutting them down only put the residents in harms way.
Bigg Jobag true it was constructed previous to the Eurozone; however, it is generally the custom to list costs of historical items in contemporary currency for ease of understanding what said items are worth (often also adjusted for inflation).
Do you also know that the Oosterschelde storm surge barrier has been miscalculated in the past. No account has been taken of climate change and sea level elevation. The whole project therefore stands for nothing. The Netherlands will cost billions of Euros to come up with something new.
I know several engineers from the Corps of Engineers who spent several days in the Netherlands working with their civil engineers on options for surge gate designs for the New Orleans area after Katrina visited that coastal area. The Netherlands have a good strategic plan that addresses flooding issues as well as the inevitable environmental issues that accompany such large civil works projects. The problem with these large flood/surge control projects is the endless operations and maintenance costs once they are completed. Finding those funding sources and justifying tax/levy structures that equitably assess local or state residents or on some other national scale is a challenge.
Richard Hanjeleer, I didn't mean to go so long with the explanation of the differences in theories of public infrastructure between nations, but that is how it works in the US. US policy regarding many public works rests on the economic idea that the recipients of the benefits of public infrastructure should somehow participate in it's cost as well, therefore cost/benefit analyses and cost sharing. It works, not great, but it works.
+Richard Drum Thanks for the extensive reply. I'm unable to offer a useful reply since (especially US) politics and finances are not exactly my strongest point.
I do appreciate you clearing this up for me even if it still sound alien to my dutch ears.
That is an accurate observation regarding the spending priorities of the Federal Government in the US. We do seem to spend an inordinate amount on defense systems relative to expenditures on flood and hurricane damage protection. The main difference between nations such as the Netherlands and the US with respect to preventing floods and hurricane surge damages is that, by law, most infrastructure constructed by the Corps of Engineers and other agencies for flood and hurricane protection requires cost-sharing the costs of construction with a qualified public entity such as a state, city, county, parish or non-Federal public organization. Those cost sharing ratios are dependent upon the project type and the fiscal ability of the sponsoring entity, but there is a local financial commitment to the initial construction cost regardless. In addition, and again by law, all post-construction operations and maintenance costs of these infrastructure projects are solely funded by the non-Federal project sponsor; not the Federal government. In the Netherlands, the initial construction and all future O&M costs are supported solely by the national government through their tax structure.....funding construction and long-term O&M for these projects in the US is a challenging task.
I hate to be that guy, but you guys currently operate 11 supercarriers with 2 more under construction and 2 on order each costing billions. The largest air force on earth is the USAF and the second biggest is the us navy. You have 20 (rip spirit of kansas) planes costing 2 billion dollars a pop. I'm sure a country like the us can handle building and maintaining a couple of glorified dykes. I'm aware of the fact financing infrastructure work very different over there but if the government of the richest country on earth can spend this kind of money on war toys they can surely chime in to prevent their people from drowning after every storm.
Please don't turn this into the usual us/eu flame war i'm just genuinely curious how this is possible.
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